Re: [Int-area] Continuing IPv10 I-D discussion.

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Thu, 30 March 2017 16:26 UTC

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From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Continuing IPv10 I-D discussion.
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 09:11:56AM -0700,
 Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote 
 a message of 58 lines which said:

> The IETF is a place that lets a thousand flowers bloom, but has
> historically been less adept at pruning.
> 
> A good garden requires both

Yes, but there is a big assymetry: writing a good proposal is hard,
and takes time, while writing stupid things can be done at
high-rate. If we allow everything, we'll have more bad proposals than
good.