Re: [Internetgovtech] US Government response to the European Commission statement
"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Tue, 25 February 2014 20:20 UTC
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[Heavily snipped, and I hope I have not missed another thread that answers my question.] When I read the EU statement, the short section of government involvement left me confused as to what was wanted. maybe, using this as a basis, you can help me understand what might be desired (as you see it personally. I am not asking you to provide a statemen for the EU on what they want.) On 2/25/14, 4:48 AM, Andrea Glorioso wrote: ... > To be clear: I am not suggesting we need a new SDO. But I think it's useful > to put very clearly on the table what would be the pros and cons of > having one, > and this is why I asked the question. > > However, if there is a shared agreement that more structured and > bi-directional > dialogues and engagements between the "technical community" and the world > of governments / public authorities would be beneficial (and quite > frankly I'm > not convinced we are there yet) then one can find middle solutions between > 'ad hoc' liaisons and new, full-blown SDOs. What I get confused about is whether having folks in the room, who come from government, and can articulate the issues they see, is sufficient. That is what has been done in the past. It seemed to work. But there seems to be a desire, maybe in my head misreading your text, for a structure that more formally recognizes the government role. Is that what you think is needed? If so, can you explain what sort of role and why one might want it? One factor to keep in mind is that one making some standards that are not used is fine. It is in fact inevitable. That is part of why we call these voluntary. Yours, Joel M. Halpern > > Ciao, > > Andrea > > -- > I speak only for myself. Sometimes I do not even agree with myself. Keep > it in mind. > Twitter: @andreaglorioso > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/andrea.glorioso > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=1749288&trk=tab_pro ...
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] US Government response to t… Andrea Glorioso
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] US Government response to t… Andrea Glorioso
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Russ White
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… S Moonesamy
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Jefsey
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Andrea Glorioso
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Andrea Glorioso
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Andrea Glorioso
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Andrea Glorioso
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Russ White
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Andrea Glorioso
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Andrea Glorioso
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Andrea Glorioso
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Jefsey
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… John Levine
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Jefsey
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Involvement from other cons… Andrea Glorioso
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