Re: [Internetgovtech] A "healthy" or a "secure" internet (was: US Government response to the European Commission statement)

[Andrea Glorioso <[e-mail]>]

Dear SM, all,

sorry for the belated replies. Increased workload + health issues in the
family.

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:58 PM, S Moonesamy <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi Andrea,
> At 09:47 13-02-2014, Andrea Glorioso wrote:
>
>> I think that the notion of "growing" can be defined in a way that would
>> not be very much open to debate. But how do we define what is a "healthy"
>> or a "secure" Internet?
>>
>
> Credits to Detlef Bosau for the following:
>
>   "But you will agree: WHEN you are interested in scientific questions,
> don't
>    ask students or professors, but ask a kid."
>
> To answer the first (quoted) question I would ask the person what he or
> she considers as a "healthy" or a "secure" internet.
>

The first step in any conversation which aims to be productive for all
parties is to make sure there is a common understanding of the terms of the
discussion (but see my PS below)

At a certain point, however, it becomes rather cumbersome to check each and
every time what each term means. That's not how social systems work.

Coming to the IETF, I think I have a rather good idea of what this
community considers to be a "secure" Internet. I'm less sure there is a
shared understanding of what "healthy" means.

Hence my question.

Best,

Andrea

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PS: actually, there can be cases in which it is actually productive and
perfectly logical (although not very sustainable) for each party to make
sure that each word has a different meaning, in order to be able to later
claim that there was an agreement, but also that what was concluded has the
specific meaning each party wants it to have. I understand this sounds like
anathema to a specification-setting body, but it does happen in many walks
of life, from romantic relationships to global political negotiations.
Anyway, I don't want to digress. ;)