RE: Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

<bruno.decraene@orange.com> Wed, 26 February 2020 15:39 UTC

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From: <bruno.decraene@orange.com>
To: Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>, Lizhenbin <lizhenbin@huawei.com>
CC: 'SPRING WG List' <spring@ietf.org>, "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming <draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
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Fernando,

> From: Fernando Gont [mailto:fernando@gont.com.ar] 
> 
> On 26/2/20 11:37, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote:
> > Hi Robin,
> > 
> > I think that this was expected that this specific LC would last for more 
> > than 2 weeks.
> > 
> > Summarizing and closing it is on my to do list. (I wish my to do list 
> > were smaller, or that I throw more $$ or contributors on action items. 
> > But wishing does not help much in my world.)
> > 
> > That been said, this does not change much with regards to technical 
> > comments been raised:
> > 
> > -They are either addressed, non-addressed or pending
> > 
> > -they can be raised after the WG LC (e.g. during IETF LC or IESG review)
> > 
> > -they can even be raised after RFC publication. And eventually can led 
> > to errata, bis document, deprecation...
> 
> So... is the plan to ship a document that violates RFC8200?

The above statement was meant to say that if the technical comment is valid, its timing (e.g., the fact that it is raised after the original Last Call period) is not an argument to dismiss this technical argument.

Then your question is orthogonal, and the answer to your question is 'No'.
Note that that is also orthogonal as to whether "doing A" violates RFC X or not.

 
> Should participants stop wasting time in constructive comments, and 
> rather work and prepare to submit a formal appeal, instead?

What is not clear in " So technical review and comments are good, at all time. "?

Thank you
--Bruno
 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Fernando Gont
> e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com
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