Re: Deprecating EUI-64 Based IPv6 Addresses
"Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com> Sat, 30 November 2013 23:59 UTC
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From: "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com>
To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: Deprecating EUI-64 Based IPv6 Addresses
Thread-Topic: Deprecating EUI-64 Based IPv6 Addresses
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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 23:58:59 +0000
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On Nov 29, 2013, at 7:49 AM, "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: > I attended .1 meetings in Dallas the week after Vancouver and the fashion was more around: > > - cannot bridge 64 bits address (but the reason is more for incompatible MAC expectation in 15.4 like latency than for address translation reasons) > - should go back to EUI 48 for everything (and the reason was that changing all the mibs that have 48 bits in them is a nightmare) From my perspective, I really don't care how many bits any given technology uses. If they need a 92.5 bit address, they should use a 92.5 bit address. On the other hand, if they don't need a given address size, they should not concoct a reason to use it. The IETF should similarly use address sizes and structures that work will across a variety of lower layer technologies, and perform the unnatural act of tying itself to one of them, or appearing to. The value of a virtual address is that it maps to anything... > Cheers, > > Pascal > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexandru Petrescu >> Sent: vendredi 29 novembre 2013 14:59 >> To: Fred Baker (fred); Fernando Gont >> Cc: 6man@ietf.org; <draft-gont-6man-deprecate-eui64-based- >> addresses@tools.ietf.org> >> Subject: Re: Deprecating EUI-64 Based IPv6 Addresses >> >> sidenote about this intriguing bit... >> >> Le 25/10/2013 07:16, Fred Baker (fred) a écrit : >> [...] >>> and note that the IEEE is now (I'm told) discussing 128 bit MAC >>> Addresses. >> >> Found in draft-ieee-rac-oui-restructuring-00 section 4.4.2 'EUI-128 addresses'. >> >> Alex >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> ipv6@ietf.org >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------- "We are learning to do a great many clever things...The next great task will be to learn not to do them." - G. K. Chesterton (1874-1936)
- Re: Why /64 Brian E Carpenter
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- Deprecating EUI-64 Based IPv6 Addresses (Fwd: New… Fernando Gont
- RE: Deprecating EUI-64 Based IPv6 Addresses (Fwd:… Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: Deprecating EUI-64 Based IPv6 Addresses (Fwd:… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Deprecating EUI-64 Based IPv6 Addresses (Fwd:… Fernando Gont
- Re: Deprecating EUI-64 Based IPv6 Addresses (Fwd:… Alexandru Petrescu
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