Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage
"Mark Davis" <mark.davis@icu-project.org> Fri, 16 May 2008 20:09 UTC
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From: Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage
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I think that would be fine. On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Randy Presuhn < randy_presuhn@mindspring.com> wrote: > Hi - > > As a technical contributor... > > > From: "Mark Davis" <mark.davis@icu-project.org> > > To: "Doug Ewell" <doug@ewellic.org> > > Cc: "LTRU Working Group" <ltru@ietf.org> > > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:08 AM > > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage > ... > > The only thing that the text is saying is that when there is a > predominant > > language, for backwards compatibility -- AND with some careful caveats -- > > the above is broadened. This is *not* with respect to permissibility, but > > with respect to recommended practice. > > > > - It is *permissible* to tag Mandarin text with "und" or "zh" or > "cmn". > > - It is a *good idea* to tag/lookup with "cmn"*, except that for > > backwards compatibility, "zh" may be better for many > implementations.* > > - It is *permissible* to tag Standard Arabic text with "und" or "ar" > or > > "arb". > > - It is a *good idea* to tag/lookup with "arb"*, except that for > > backwards compatibility, "ar" may be better for many > implementations.* > > > > That lets people like Google, which has a very serious and important > issue > > with backwards compatibility, support the vast amount of > Mandarin/Arabic/... > > that is tagged with "zh", and continue to tag Mandarin content with "zh". > It > > also lets people like Shawn's group at Microsoft, having no backwards > > compatibility issues with "cmn" and "zh", to shift over immediately. > > > > It is also orthogonal to the recommendation for non-predominant > encompassed > > languages, where we would tag with the more specific tags: "yue", > > "yue-Hant-HK", "yue-Hant-US", "abh-AF", and so on, once they are > available. > ... > > I'd re-frame it in slightly different terms, as an example of the "tag > wisely" > principle, rather than as anything that might be understood as a > recommendation. > "For some applications, it is possible that there will be cases where it > could > be advantageous to deliberately use a tag which is imprecise. For example, > due to the peculiar situation of written Chinese, an application with large > quantities of legacy textual data already tagged with 'zh' might countinue > to use this over-broad tag even for new data which would more precisely be > tagged with 'cmn'." > > Randy > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru > -- Mark
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- [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage [OT?] Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Don Osborn
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] my technical position on extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Kent Karlsson
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Nicolas Krebs
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Kent Karlsson
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Kent Karlsson
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage usage Leif Halvard Silli