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Re: [Manycouches] trains and planes, Daniel presentation @ 113

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Thu, 14 April 2022 20:48 UTC

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According to Michael Richardson  <mcr@sandelman.ca>:
>2) You probably only get a direct flight to AMS if you fly KLM (or a
>   partner).  The people flying to Frankfurt or Munich wind up with a
>   CO2 intensive short-haul flight to AMS.  If they instead took the train,
>   there would be a win.

Frankfurt airport to Maastricht by train is about four hours with 3 or
4 connections. Nunich airport to Maastricht by train is 8 or 9 hours,
3 or 4 connections or 6 if you like living dangerously. I think that
sounds like fun, but I am strange.

It's a reasonable train trip from AMS or BRU and maybe CDG but not from
other airports.

This is all easy to find on the usual rail booking sites like trainline.eu
so I don't think we need a lot more advice than where to buy train tix.

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