Re: [Manycouches] Daniel presentation @ 113 - virtual interim meetings

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 13 April 2022 02:54 UTC

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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2022 19:53:58 -0700
Cc: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch>, manycouches@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Manycouches] Daniel presentation @ 113 - virtual interim meetings
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I tend to think that focusing on train travel should be coupled with scheduling meetings in the American Midwest, such as Kansas.

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> On Apr 12, 2022, at 2:41 PM, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Apr 12, 2022, at 8:51 AM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
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>> Trimmed, to comment on one possibility raised by Eliot.
>> Joel
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>> On 4/12/2022 11:29 AM, Eliot Lear wrote:
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>>> * Mandatory virtual interim meetings at a certain tempo
>> ...
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>> Actually, I would prefer fewer virtual per-WG interim meetingss.   As a person who participates in a lot of IETF working groups, and also in other SDOs, regular virtual interim meetings are a pain.  Regular virtual interim meetings in the sweet spot that people like for international calls makes everything collide.  Having interims when there is actually a need for discussion on a specific topic makes good sense.  But interim meetings at a "certain tempo".  Please, no.
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>> Yours,
>> Joel
> 
> I concur. The point of plenary meetings is, in part, to justify the travel expense, and the point of meetings at all is to enable people to talk with each other face to face. Regular face to face interims would mean that many people would simply not find the expense justified, and virtual interims prevent the face to face conversations that need to be had.