Re: [Manycouches] Daniel presentation @ 113

[Alexandre Petrescu <[e-mail]>]

Le 12/04/2022 à 23:33, Simon Leinen a écrit :
> Stephen Farrell writes:
>> Apologies if this came up at the meeting (I've yet to look at the
>> recording) but in addition to considering offsets I think it'd be
>> good if we started to consider ease of access to meeting locations
>> via train. We could start that by just describing potential train
>> journeys to the meeting city and see if it turns into something
>> people start to like. (So no need to mandate anything or modify
>> meeting criteria RFCs to get started.)
> 
> Yes, I think that would be useful.  At least here in Europe, even
> long train journeys are becoming more convenient (again), but for 
> international travel, the mental transaction costs can still be high
> due to multiple agencies to deal with/choose between.  Some guidance
> would be useful - and also remind people that this option even
> exists.
> 
>> It might not be so useful for some cities, but could be for others,
>> e.g. train to Vienna may have been practical for a non-trivial
>> number of in-person attendees perhaps. (It'd not be of much use for
>> me, living on a small island off the edge of Europe as I do, which
>> is a pity as train travel is a lot more pleasant than flying, but
>> such is life;-)
> 
> Train to Vienna was very practical for me - get on the sleeper train
> in Zurich around 11PM, arrive in Vienna the next morning before 8AM.

Train is a great option.

However, one should think of the original poster's main motivation as well.

One does not want one's child to reproach anything.  In other words one
would like to make a world for children worth.

In that sense, the train consumes electrical energy which is often
produced out of nuclear fuel, which becomes waste, which later on can be
a reason for children to reproach to their grand-grand-parents, if not
stored well.

The train also consumes electrical energy produced out of coal-based,
gas and other fuels.  The gas, coal and oil are currently a subject for
people in one country to reproach to other people in another country.
One does not want that reproach either.

The train also consumes electricity produced out of hydro, but dams have
produced catastrophies too.

It might be that what we are looking at with these 'Energy
Considerations' sections is more of moral, ethics, and a social
acceptance issue at large.

Alex