Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with RFC3108 values
Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> Wed, 09 October 2013 20:59 UTC
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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:59:19 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with RFC3108 values
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On 10/9/13 12:19 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > On 10/7/13 6:46 PM, Christian Groves wrote: >> Hello Paul, >> >> Is a process needed to create an errata? Wouldn't the fact that they >> appear in standards track RFCs be enough to include them in the SDP >> registry based on the SDP directorates (i.e. expert review) >> recommendation? I agree its not ideal that these older RFCs didn't >> include an IANA considerations section but I think that rather than >> spending lots of cycles on this that the SDP directorate could just >> request IANA to register them to avoid any future overlap issues. > > Unfortunately there are rules. The rules for a particular IANA > registry are defined when the registry is created. If you check in the > registry, it points to RFC4566. Section 8.2.4 of RFC4566 says that > additions to this registry must follow the "Specification Required" > policy defined in RFC2434. And the specification must include a > particular set of information. (That would typically be in an IANA > considerations section.) > > At the moment all we have is RFC3108, and it doesn't have an IANA > considerations section at all. It certainly doesn't give the info > needed for an addition to that registry. > > IIUC, an errata to 3108 wouldn't, on its own, be sufficient either. I > think we will need a new RFC that does it. This should probably be an > update to 3108. An errata is perhaps a formal way to trigger that. > Having previously communicated with one of the RFC 3108 authors on this, I would ask for leniency here, not least considering that RFC 3108 predates RFC 4566. In other words, I'd argue that we should simply add the missing registrations. Thanks -- Flemming > Thanks, > Paul > >> Regards, Christian >> >> On 8/10/2013 4:44 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: >>> On 10/6/13 11:28 PM, Christian Groves wrote: >>>> Hello Flemming, >>>> >>>> Thanks for pointing out that thread. If Paul as one of the SDP >>>> directorate is OK with it then I don't have any issue with the -cs >>>> draft. >>>> >>>> I think though that the addresstype and nettype from RFC3108 still >>>> needs >>>> to be picked up by the IANA registry. >>> >>> I agree. I'm not sure what the best way to accomplish that is. >>> Perhaps an errata to 3108, pointing out that it fails to register its >>> new nettype and addrtypes with IANA would start the process. Or is >>> there a better way? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Paul >>> >>>> Regards, Christian >>>> >>>> On 7/10/2013 12:38 PM, Flemming Andreasen wrote: >>>>> Hi Christian >>>>> >>>>> We had a thread on this particular issue about a year ago. See >>>>> >>>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmusic/current/msg09599.html >>>>> >>>>> and the conclusion in >>>>> >>>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmusic/current/msg09621.html >>>>> >>>>> I hope this addresses your concern as it relates to -cs draft. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> -- Flemming >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/19/13 8:22 AM, Christian Groves wrote: >>>>>> FYI, I was looking at the IANA registry for SDP parameters ( >>>>>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/sdp-parameters/sdp-parameters.xhtml) >>>>>> and noticed that there was a registration for addrtype E164 >>>>>> linked to >>>>>> this CS draft. >>>>>> >>>>>> There's a problem that there's already an addrtype E164 in RFC3108. >>>>>> This earlier usage of E164 should have been registered with IANA but >>>>>> seems to have been missed. To complicate things the format of the >>>>>> RFC3108 E164 addrtype is different to the one in the CS draft. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've already raised this with IANA but I thought it would be worth >>>>>> mentioning in MMUSIC. >>>>>> >>>>>> Christian >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> mmusic mailing list >>>> mmusic@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mmusic mailing list >>> mmusic@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mmusic mailing list >> mmusic@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >> > > _______________________________________________ > mmusic mailing list > mmusic@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > . >
- [MMUSIC] Protocol Action: 'Session Description Pr… The IESG
- [MMUSIC] Comments on IESG Changes in the -cs draf… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Comments on IESG Changes in the -cs … Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [MMUSIC] Comments on IESG Changes in the -cs … Miguel A. Garcia
- Re: [MMUSIC] Comments on IESG Changes in the -cs … Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Comments on IESG Changes in the -cs … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Comments on IESG Changes in the -cs … Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [MMUSIC] Comments on IESG Changes in the -cs … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Comments on IESG Changes in the -cs … Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [MMUSIC] Comments on IESG Changes in the -cs … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Comments on IESG Changes in the -cs … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Comments on IESG Changes in the -cs … Atle Monrad
- Re: [MMUSIC] Comments on IESG Changes in the -cs … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Protocol Action: 'Session Descriptio… Christian Groves
- Re: [MMUSIC] Protocol Action: 'Session Descriptio… Richard Barnes
- Re: [MMUSIC] Protocol Action: 'Session Descriptio… Christian Groves
- Re: [MMUSIC] Protocol Action: 'Session Descriptio… Flemming Andreasen
- [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry Christian Groves
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… Paul Kyzivat
- [MMUSIC] Updating iana SDP parameter registries i… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… Christian Groves
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating iana SDP parameter registri… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating iana SDP parameter registri… Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating iana SDP parameter registri… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… Christian Groves
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating iana SDP parameter registri… Christian Groves
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating iana SDP parameter registri… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating iana SDP parameter registri… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… Christian Groves
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating iana SDP parameter registri… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updating SDP parameter registry with… Flemming Andreasen