Re: [mpls] Last Call: <draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-04.txt> (Encapsulating MPLS in UDP) to Proposed Standard

[Joe Touch <[e-mail]>]

On 1/17/2014 9:19 AM, Curtis Villamizar wrote:
> Lars,
>
> We seem to be in an endless loop here.
>
> You have made your assertions about your desire to uphold the purity
> of any new UDP applications and adhere to the BCP you wrote.

The BCP that the transport area as a whole recommends, in conjunction 
with the IETF as a whole.

> You appear to be very nearly alone in this argument...

The IETF is a very large DDOS attack on people's time. It's very easy 
for faulty ideas to pop up and not be challenged - easy because there 
are a lot of people (companies) with vested (financial) interest in 
promoting their particular approaches, and only a few people who care to 
spend the time playing "whack a mole" to defend the Internet against 
these approaches (by either pulling them back into compliance with 
agreed principles, such as BCPs, or shooting down ideas altogether).

So if your room is full of your own choir singing so loud for your own 
sake that you can't hear the objections of the few who are providing 
feedback from outside the room, that shouldn't be surprising. But that 
neither means the choir is in tune nor that there aren't many outside 
the room (or who don't attend meetings) who aren't trying to tell you 
otherwise.

FWIW.

:-)

Joe