Re: [mpls] Last Call: <draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-04.txt> (Encapsulating MPLS in UDP) to Proposed Standard

Scott Brim <scott.brim@gmail.com> Thu, 30 January 2014 20:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] Last Call: <draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-04.txt> (Encapsulating MPLS in UDP) to Proposed Standard
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There are two topics that should be separate: checksums and congestion
control.

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote:

> I think we agree that if the router needs faster, then the router gets
> faster.
>

That's in response to Ross, about checksums.


> Where we disagree is whether the "bull in the china shop" gets to ignore
> the rules of the road to get what it wants.
>

congestion


> I.e., I won't disagree on what router vendors want or what they're willing
> to support (though I will disagree on what hardware can do, based on
> experience).
>

checksums


> I will disagree that routers get to run roughshod over the rest of us to
> do it.
>
> Simple solution -- don't use UDP.


congestion.

Joe, do I understand correctly that you've conceded about checksums and now
you want to talk about congestion again?

swb