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Re: [Ntp] Quick review of WGLC for status change for draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries

Harlan Stenn <stenn@nwtime.org> Sat, 13 August 2022 00:00 UTC

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To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] Quick review of WGLC for status change for draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries
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Rich,

I remember the Usenet days.

You haven't hurt my feelings, and I'm not even sure I feel offended.

My positions and comments are based on the technical knowledge and 
observations I have gained from all my professional experience in 
general, and my (intense?) focused experience I have acquired from 
working on the NTP Project, with Dave Mills, and talking with gobs of 
other people about NTP and their needs/experience, over the last ~30 
years or so.

The folks who continue to work on the NTP Project are all very focused 
on making sure that, to the best of our knowledge, as few limitations as 
possible are made that MIGHT negatively affect the ability for 
past/current/future versions of NTP to perform as well as possible.

On 8/12/2022 3:44 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:
> Harlan,
> 
> I am sorry I have hurt your feelings and offended you. We were pals back in the Usenet days.
> 
> Thank you for correcting the draft about 0x2005.
> 
> 	/r$
> 
> 

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