Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-natcoord-09
Simon Perreault <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> Mon, 07 January 2013 09:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-natcoord-09
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Salut Alain, Le 2013-01-03 17:39, Alain Durand a écrit : > 1) This functionality can be achieved very simply on a CPE by sending multiple PCP requests. > This would remove the complexity of port set indexes, max port set, etc... One reason for MAP_PORT_SET is scalability. - On the PCP client: you don't want to deal with e.g. 2048 MAP requests, then 2048 refreshes every X hours, etc. - On the NAT: it allows allocating one single "set" entry, which may very well occupy less state memory than 2048 individual map entries. Another reason is to get a contiguous chunk. There is no guarantee that multiple MAP requests will be able to obtain a contiguous chunk of port numbers. Some applications may find this property necessary (e.g. SIP clients). > 2) There are already several DHCP (v4 and v6) options being defined to address this very problem, No. The DHCP options solve the very specific problem of provisioning a port set to a subscriber, in e.g. the LW4o6 use case. MAP_PORT_SET is different. The best way to see it is as an extension to MAP: it allows to map port sets with PCP instead of single port numbers. It is applicable to LW4o6, but also in other use cases: applications that need chunks of continuous ports, Reinaldo's firewall use case, etc. > 3) When asking for multiple of those port-sets, one may end-up with port sets on different > external IP addresses. The MAP opcode has the same concern, and the same answer applies. Let us know if you think it should be made clearer in the text. > Also, when ports are running low, connections may be delayed until a new port set is acquired. This is up to the PCP client to figure out. The same concern applies to the MAP opcode. Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca
- [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-pcp-n… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-natcoo… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… christian.jacquenet
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Alain Durand
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… teemu.savolainen
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… bingxuere
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Zhangdacheng (Dacheng)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Zhangdacheng (Dacheng)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Chongfeng Xie
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Alain Durand
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Alain Durand
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Diego R. Lopez
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Tom Taylor
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Fuyu (Eleven)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qi Sun
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Alain Durand
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Zhouqian (Cathy)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dave Thaler
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Dave Thaler
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… teemu.savolainen
- [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control Prot… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Zhouqian (Cathy)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Will Liu (Shucheng)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Qiong
- [pcp] Lw4o6 or DS-Lite? (Re: WG Call for Adoption… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] Lw4o6 or DS-Lite? (Re: WG Call for Adop… bingxuere@gmail.com