Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-natcoord-09
"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Wed, 09 January 2013 15:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-natcoord-09
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Qiong [mailto:bingxuere@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 5:27 AM > To: Dan Wing > Cc: Simon Perreault; pcp@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-natcoord-09 > > Dear Dan, > > > > > Another question: what is the relationship between draft-tsou-pcp- > natcoord > and draft-sun-dhc-port-set-option and draft-wu-dhc-port-set-option? > I > saw there was a request to adopt draft-sun-dhc-port-set-option in > DHC, > and lots of discussion. > > I have not seen a discussion of using DHCP versus PCP for this > functionality, which concluded that PCP was the better choice. Did > that discussion occur? If so, can we get a pointer to that > discussion? > > > [Qiong] For the relationship between draft-tsou-pcp-natcoord, draft-sun- > dhc-port-set-option and draft-wu-dhc-port-set-option, draft-tsou-pcp- > natcoord is a port-set extension for pcp-base and draft-sun-dhc-port- > set-option(updated version of draft-wu-dhc-port-set-option ) is a port- > set extension on dhcpv4. Both draft-tsou-pcp-natcoord and draft-sun-dhc- > port-set-option can work with lightweight 4over6, but draft-tsou-pcp- > natcoord is not only designed for lw4over6 use case. It can also be used > for other cases like Reinaldo's firewall, SLNAT44, application-based > port-set reservation, etc. > > > For lw4over6 use case, we do have a discussion of using DHCP or PCP > among lw4over6 co-authors (no much discussion in the mailing-list). But > it's truely hard to say which one is better. Different operators will > have different situations. For example, for operators with existing DHCP > server and is not planning to deploy CGN, they may prefer dhcp solution; > while for operators with no existing DHCP server and will deploy CGN in > the early stage, they may prefer pcp solution. So it is really a > deployment choice for them. We all know the industry is best served with a single standard, rather than multiple standards (both a PCP mechanism and a DHCP mechanism). Too many choices is actually harmful, rather than helpful. I would really like to see the need for both PCP and DHCP before either working group adopts a mechanism. If we don't do that now, the same question is likely to arise when during IETF last call or during IESG review. -d > > Hope it clarifies. > > > Best wishes > > Qiong > > > > > first > > > > > -d > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pcp mailing list > pcp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcp > > > > > > -- > ============================================== > Qiong Sun > China Telecom Beijing Research Institude > > > Open source code: > lightweight 4over6: http://sourceforge.net/projects/laft6/ > PCP-natcoord: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcpportsetdemo/ > =============================================== >
- [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-pcp-n… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-natcoo… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… christian.jacquenet
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Alain Durand
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… teemu.savolainen
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… bingxuere
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Zhangdacheng (Dacheng)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Zhangdacheng (Dacheng)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Chongfeng Xie
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Alain Durand
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Alain Durand
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Diego R. Lopez
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Tom Taylor
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Fuyu (Eleven)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qi Sun
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Alain Durand
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Zhouqian (Cathy)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dave Thaler
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Dave Thaler
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… teemu.savolainen
- [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control Prot… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Zhouqian (Cathy)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Will Liu (Shucheng)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Qiong
- [pcp] Lw4o6 or DS-Lite? (Re: WG Call for Adoption… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] Lw4o6 or DS-Lite? (Re: WG Call for Adop… bingxuere@gmail.com