Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-natcoord-09
"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Mon, 07 January 2013 16:54 UTC
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From: Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>
To: 'Simon Perreault' <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca>, pcp@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-natcoord-09
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> -----Original Message----- > From: pcp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Simon Perreault > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 1:45 AM > To: pcp@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-natcoord-09 > > Dan, > > Just trying to provide some more clarification... > > Le 2013-01-05 03:09, Dan Wing a écrit : > > Can it work with a CGN? > > Depends what you mean by CGN. Previously, I cited draft-ietf-behave-lsn-requirements, as that is perhaps the best citation the industry has for "what is a CGN". > In the current draft version (-09), MAP_PORT_SET assumes that the NAT > never changes port numbers. The NAT MAY change addresses. Can that be made clearer in the document, *please*. > It is possible to remove that assumption. We are planning to do that > after the call for adoption. Then MAP_PORT_SET will be exactly like MAP, > except that it works with port *sets* (obviously). Oh, so with that change, NATCOORD could work with CGN. > > With the current document text, I cannot understand what sort of > > deployments where NATCOORD can or cannot be used. Until I understand > > that, I can't decide if this document is a good idea or a bad idea. > > Hopefully the above explanation of the protocol will be sufficient for > you to figure out its applicability. :) Another question: what is the relationship between draft-tsou-pcp-natcoord and draft-sun-dhc-port-set-option and draft-wu-dhc-port-set-option? I saw there was a request to adopt draft-sun-dhc-port-set-option in DHC, and lots of discussion. I have not seen a discussion of using DHCP versus PCP for this functionality, which concluded that PCP was the better choice. Did that discussion occur? If so, can we get a pointer to that discussion? -d
- [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-pcp-n… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-natcoo… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… christian.jacquenet
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Alain Durand
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… teemu.savolainen
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… bingxuere
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Zhangdacheng (Dacheng)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Zhangdacheng (Dacheng)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Chongfeng Xie
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Alain Durand
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Alain Durand
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Sam Hartman
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Diego R. Lopez
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Tom Taylor
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Fuyu (Eleven)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Simon Perreault
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qi Sun
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Alain Durand
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Zhouqian (Cathy)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Qiong
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Dave Thaler
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… Dave Thaler
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-tsou-pcp-na… Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: draft-boucadair-p… teemu.savolainen
- [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control Prot… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Zhouqian (Cathy)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Will Liu (Shucheng)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] WG Call for Adoption: The Port Control … Qiong
- [pcp] Lw4o6 or DS-Lite? (Re: WG Call for Adoption… Reinaldo Penno (repenno)
- Re: [pcp] Lw4o6 or DS-Lite? (Re: WG Call for Adop… bingxuere@gmail.com