Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfautz-service-provider-identifier-urn-01

"PFAUTZ, PENN L" <pp3129@att.com> Thu, 29 September 2011 13:05 UTC

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Dean:
I see the case as being..." more of a long-tailed distribution where a few SPIDs have
tens-of-millions of entities and it tapers off to the right" if by entities we mean E.164 numbers or some other form of identifiers.

That is certainly how it would be the for use cases that the drinks WG, the GSMA, and the i3 Forum are looking at.

Penn Pfautz
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Subject: Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfautz-service-provider-identifier-urn-01

On 9/28/11 3:27 PM, Richard Shockey wrote:
> Yea .. 4.3 million "possible" registrations and what is in the registry 1482
> registrations.
>
> Plus ICANN certainly has the money ..too much money if you ask me.

Nothing says they can't charge for a registration. So Adam's right; if
business booms, they'll find a way to make an industry out of it. Not
our worry. (But I do want to see the face of somebody at IANA when we
tell them we're planning for 1,000,000 registrations a year).

However, making sure they don't run out of inventory probably IS our
problem.


While I agree that 32 bits is PROBABLY enough for the forseeable future,
if we're going to do something besides ITAD then we might as well go to
64. But if we're happy with ITAD structurally, there may not be enough
justification to do more.

At 100 entities per SPID, 32 bits gives us some 430 million entities.
That's rather short of the 20 billion entities we might see in the very
near term. Even at 1000 entities per SPID, we're still a factor of 5
short in the near term.

So what sort of entities-per-SPID ratio are we willing to assume?
Remember that some entities may have more than one number (I have, at
last count, 23, including the four companies I currently control).

Is it more of a long-tailed distribution where a few SPIDs have
tens-of-millions of entities and it tapers off to the right?

--
Dean


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