Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfautz-service-provider-identifier-urn-01
"Worley, Dale R (Dale)" <dworley@avaya.com> Tue, 04 October 2011 15:12 UTC
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From: "Worley, Dale R (Dale)" <dworley@avaya.com>
To: Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com>, "rai@ietf.org" <rai@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfautz-service-provider-identifier-urn-01
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> From: Dean Willis [dean.willis@softarmor.com] > > [...] but the fact that "It's not an ITAD" makes it easier to sell > to carriers (because it doesn't come with the expectations of an > ITAD and an existing pool of users), [...] I think this shouldn't be underestimated. My experience is that people in the telco world (even very smart people) are much slower to change things than people in the Internet world, both due to their organizational history (many companies have been in business since the nineteenth century) and their operational realities (having your network failures reported on the front page of all the newspapers in the nation tends to make one cautious). It's quite possible that even if the service providers intend to open the system to all competitors, they still feel a visceral resistance to an identifier that was not originally purposed for identifying service providers like themselves. > This leads me to suggest an alternative acronym: the "Generic > Operation Numerical Administrative Domain", or GONAD. Think of it as > a generative organ for future internet services that need > numerically scoped identifiers. Besides, I've often thought that > gonads should be registered; they cause a lot more damage than > personal firearms. And what if one cannot get a "concealed carry" permit for one's GONADs? Dale
- [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfautz-s… PFAUTZ, PENN L
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… PFAUTZ, PENN L
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Adam Roach
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… PFAUTZ, PENN L
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… PFAUTZ, PENN L
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… PFAUTZ, PENN L
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Adam Roach
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… PFAUTZ, PENN L
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Michael Hammer
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… PFAUTZ, PENN L
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Michael Hammer
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Michael Hammer
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Michael Hammer
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Adam Roach
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Kevin P. Fleming
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Michael Hammer
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Kevin P. Fleming
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID - draft-pfau… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… PFAUTZ, PENN L
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Kevin P. Fleming
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Adam Roach
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] Global Service Provider ID draft-pfautz… Michael Hammer
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Michael Hammer
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Dean Willis
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Adam Roach
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Richard Shockey
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [RAI] [drinks] FW: Global Service Provider ID… Richard Shockey