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Re: [saag] Channel binding is great but not a silver bullet

Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu> Mon, 02 March 2009 18:09 UTC

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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:09:06 -0500
From: Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu>
To: Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com>, Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com>
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Cc: Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>, der Mouse <mouse@Rodents-Montreal.ORG>, saag@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [saag] Channel binding is great but not a silver bullet
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--On Monday, March 02, 2009 06:57:32 PM +0100 Alan DeKok 
<aland@deployingradius.com> wrote:

>   Take Starbucks, for example.  They have WiFi.  What do the employees
> know about it?  Pretty much nothing.  What do the people who installed
> it know about it?  Pretty much nothing.  What does the network operator
> *running* the network know about it?  Pretty much nothing.

Actually, I believe in the specific case of Starbucks, the network operator 
running the network is T-Mobile, and so probably actually _does_ know 
something about it.  At least, at the macro level.

But the point stands -- coffee houses are not network operators and they 
are not federated identity service providers.  They are purveyors of 
concentrated liquid evil, and the occasional cup of tea.

-- Jeff

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