Re: New document shepherd writeup

Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Wed, 11 May 2022 17:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: New document shepherd writeup
From: Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
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Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 13:15:45 -0400
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> On May 4, 2022, at 21:26, John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> wrote:
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>> On May 4, 2022, at 8:52 PM, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
>> Apologies if my message came off as snotty or railing against the IESG
> 
> It didn’t, to me anyway, and in turn I apologize if my note left that impression. There just seemed to be a gathering tide of — quite typically for our community — getting all technical about the possible implications of the text if closely parsed in the most extreme light. I wanted to head that off by being clear that no, we were not playing nine-dimensional chess, we just didn’t choose our words carefully enough. I happened to reply to your note when doing that. Sorry if you felt singled out! I should have removed individuals from the to:, my bad. 
> 
> —John

Whoops missed this. We’re good!

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