Re: [Asrg] request for review for a non FUSSP proposal

"Claudio Telmon" <claudio@telmon.org> Wed, 24 June 2009 17:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Asrg] request for review for a non FUSSP proposal
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> You're right. A standard will just work till the moment it will be cracked. And after that 
> the standard will be droped down and people will go back to their own home made rules.

I don't agree with that. A standard is a way many people can manage have good rules in an interoperable way. A good standard is peer reviewed and hard to break. Home made tricks usually just work for security through obscurity, and are not available to the community, which may try to invent tricks that usually don't work.