Re: [DNSOP] Draft for dynamic discovery of secure resolvers

Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Tue, 21 August 2018 02:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Draft for dynamic discovery of secure resolvers
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Marek Vavruša wrote:
> ...
>
> I'm still not sure that IETF should define the provider of trust, as
> the trust is relative. But you're right Ted, it should definitely be
> at written down andformalized if we want to move forward.
>
> I have to compose my thoughts on this first. I'll try next weekend if I get
> some of that bravery or willpower back.

if you write down trust assumptions you'll be enumerating disjoint sets 
of same as actually practiced by different users and different operators 
whose reasons should be treated as valid rather than challenged.

mine is, i monitor and control the network path between my dhcp client 
and my dhcp server very much more carefully than i can monitor and 
control the network path to RDNS servers. therefore i am comfortable 
having the former introduce me to the latter. other perspectives differ.

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P Vixie