Re: [DNSOP] Draft for dynamic discovery of secure resolvers

Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Tue, 21 August 2018 03:00 UTC

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Ted Lemon wrote:
> We have no privacy expectations from DNS.   We may have privacy
> expectations from DoH.

i have excellent privacy expectations from DoT, which is in fact DNS.

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P Vixie