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Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp-version-capability-08, to end September 25

Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com> Wed, 25 January 2023 17:02 UTC

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From: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com>
To: Donatas Abraitis <donatas.abraitis@gmail.com>, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp-version-capability-08, to end September 25
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Donatas,

I think the name "version" is too close to the BGP version that peers negotiate.

Why not use "debugging capability"?

Linda

From: Donatas Abraitis <donatas.abraitis@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 7:46 AM
To: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Cc: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com>; Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>; idr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-abraitis-bgp-version-capability-08, to end September 25

Quick update: IANA has assigned Software Version Capability number (75), updated: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-abraitis-bgp-version-capability<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-abraitis-bgp-version-capability&data=05%7C01%7Clinda.dunbar%40futurewei.com%7Cfc943f52c4ff4981008608dafeda80ad%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638102511702204675%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JIpgyvd7WKfFTLpZY%2FsAxJP5y9qGR5Ob7MTkCi61S9s%3D&reserved=0>.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 1:19 PM Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net<mailto:robert@raszuk.net>> wrote:
Linda,

Per RFC4271:
A NOTIFICATION message is sent when an error condition is detected. The BGP connection is closed immediately after it is sent.

This is a general statement. You can't take it out of the current context.


Do most deployed implementations send "Subsequent OPEN" as you stated?
"Subsequent open would be tried without this new optional parameter"


Again we are discussing the addition of a new extension. Such addition can define in itself what implementation should do when receiving such a NOTIFICATION message indicating that peer does not understand the new extension.

Rgs,
R.



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Donatas

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