Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant language subtags for German dialects
John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> Tue, 12 September 2023 16:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant language subtags for German dialects
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On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 11:43 AM Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org> wrote: > The Language Subtag Registry uses two-letter ISO 639-1 code elements as > its basis for language subtags whenever they are available, and uses > three-letter code elements from 639-2, 639-3, and 639-5 otherwise. > I realize that the word "prefix" is ambiguous. I was not referring to subtag prefixes, but to the way in which we often construct variant subtags. We can't (based on existing precedent) just use 'western' as the variant subtag for Western German. It needs to be 'dewest' or 'deuwest' or something of the sort to distinguish it from variant tags representing western varieties of other languages. The way in which variant tags are chosen isn't regulated by the BCP, but I prefer 'deuwest'. Lisa got this right in her proposals, although, as others have said, some > of these may actually be varieties of Low German (nds) or Swiss German > (gsw) rather than Standard German (de). > Until we hear otherwise, I am not convinced that any or all of these tags represent varieties of Standard German.
- [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant langua… Lisa Dücker
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Hugh Paterson III
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Hugh Paterson III
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Sebastian Drude
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Lisa Dücker
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant languag… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant languag… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant languag… Michael Everson
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant languag… Martin Hosken
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant languag… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Lisa Dücker
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Hugh Paterson III
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant la… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant languag… Michael Everson
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant languag… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant languag… Kent Karlsson
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant languag… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant languag… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant languag… John Cowan