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Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant language subtags for German dialects

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Tue, 24 October 2023 10:08 UTC

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From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: Hugh Paterson III <sil.linguist@gmail.com>
CC: Lisa Dücker <lisa.duecker@uni-marburg.de>, John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>, Mark Davis ☕️ <mark@macchiato.com>, Sebastian Drude <drude@xs4all.nl>, Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>, ietf-languages@iana.org, Christian Galinski <christian.galinski@chello.at>
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant language subtags for German dialects
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On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 11:17:32AM -0700,
 Hugh Paterson III <sil.linguist@gmail.com> wrote 
 a message of 210 lines which said:

> However as an Information Professional working in language archives,
> I am concerned with the assumed proposition that dialect regions are
> "areas" in a geographical sense. Dialects are mapped to language
> entities not geographical spaces. People live in geographical spaces
> – and people move.

RFC 5646 does not seem to discuss this point but it is very
common. When a belgian person writes in fr-BE and then moves to
Canada, but keeps writing the same, the language is still fr-BE even
if the person is not physically in Belgium. True, this point is not
explicit in the RFC but it seems well-known.

Do you mean we should not register subtags such as the proposed
"gerwest" (West German) because this dialect can be spoken by people
who do not live the the west of Germany? I would disagree.

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