Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant language subtags for German dialects

John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> Tue, 12 September 2023 16:57 UTC

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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 12:57:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: Proposal for variant language subtags for German dialects
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On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 11:51 AM Hugh Paterson III <sil.linguist@gmail.com>
wrote:

IWith regard to the gsw code I would like to point out the following:
> [gsw] comes to ISO 639-3 via ISO 639-2, where it's scope of coverage is
> defined as including all of allamanic, which would include varieties spoken
> in the older district of Baden or the western edge of the current state
> Baden-Württemberg.
>

That settles that, then.

 Therefore my first objection is  the proposal detailed enough here? or why
> stop at the proposed level of detail?
>

In general we add variant subtags only on request: we don't try to add more
than were asked for.  Per contra, we also try to make sure that the
requested tags represent realities on the ground.

My second objection/concern is how do we codify dialects at scale? For
> example, The Dan language spoken in Cote d'Ivoire and Liberia has no less
> than 40 dialects. So are each of those Dan dialects game for codification
> here?
>

In principle, yes (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Yerevan_jokes).