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Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant language subtags for German dialects

Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org> Mon, 25 September 2023 22:55 UTC

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From: Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>
To: Martin Hosken <martin_hosken@sil.org>, John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>
CC: Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>, IETF Languages Discussion <ietf-languages@iana.org>
Thread-Topic: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant language subtags for German dialects
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Proposal for variant language subtags for German dialects
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Martin Hosken wrote:

> I realise that this opinion does not fit with current thinking, but
> with a potential never ending series of requests for variants, might
> there be some value in defining some generic variants that can be used
> for many languages. I'm thinking of: "varnorth", " varsouth",
> "vareast", "varwest", "varcntr" or somesuch.

The main discussion about such things took place in August and September 2006, just as RFC 4646 (!) was about to be released:

https://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/ietf-languages/2006-August/004899.html

As you might imagine, the proponents of generic direction-based variants essentially argued that they would permit additional flexibility and reuse of variants, while the opponents argued that they would invite abuse and proliferation of meaningless tags (e.g. what does “es-western” mean?).

The decision was made to register generic variants only for scenarios where the variant would have the same meaning regardless of its Prefix. An example is ‘fonipa’, which refers to the International Phonetic Alphabet.

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