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Re: wadegile and pinyin LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORMs

"Andrew Cunningham" <lang.support@gmail.com> Wed, 27 August 2008 00:16 UTC

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From: Andrew Cunningham <lang.support@gmail.com>
To: "Broome, Karen" <Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com>
Subject: Re: wadegile and pinyin LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORMs
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I'd prefer the description to read

"Hanyu Pinyin romanization of Mandarin Chinese." to make it clearly distinct
that it refers to Hanyu Pinyin and not *Tongyong Pinyin.*

2008/8/27 Broome, Karen <Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com>

> Right now, this is the only text planned for entry in the registry:
>
> Type: variant
> Subtag: pinyin
> Description: Pinyin romanization of Chinese
> Prefix: zh-Latn
>
> If this is approved with "zh",  could we amend the description to "Pinyin
> romanization of Mandarin Chinese." I don't think we can expect users to read
> the registration forms and they might be misled by this description and
> prefix.
>
> Regards,
>
> Karen Broome
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no [
> ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Michael Everson [
> everson@evertype.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:31 AM
> To: ietflang IETF Languages Discussion
> Subject: Re: wadegile and pinyin LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORMs
>
> On 26 Aug 2008, at 13:56, Doug Ewell wrote:
>
> Michael Everson <everson at evertype dot com> wrote:
>
> I have nothing against "wadegile" and approve it herewith.
>
> I approve "pinyin" too.
>
> Is that to say you approve them with a Prefix value of "zh-Latn", as shown
> on Mark's "R2" registration forms?
>
> Erm, no. Both Wade Giles and Hanyu Pinyin imply Latin inherently, in my
> opinion. zh-wadegile and zh-pinyin cannot mean zh-Cyrl-wadegile or
> zh-Grek-pinyin.
>
> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com<http://www.evertype.com/>
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