Re: Pinyin

"Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com> Thu, 25 September 2008 18:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: Pinyin
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Hi -

> From: "CE Whitehead" <cewcathar@hotmail.com>
> To: <ietf-languages@iana.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:46 AM
> Subject: RE: Pinyin
...
> Regarding Niall Tracey's concern, I think that if the various orthographies
> use an almost identical character set,

uh, -Latn- ?

> it is o.k. to group them together and then provide additional variant subtags
> for those who seek further differentiation.

What application or use case is fostered by doing this?

...
> (I've noted that we do not even bother to differentiate the various European
> orthographies used for French, Spanish, English;

Probably because there is no earthly use case for doing so.

...
>  I think it will be nice to have subtags for the related Romanizations of the
> different languages.
...

Who *needs* this?  What application of language tags would not work
without it?

Randy