Re: ISMS working group and charter problems

Juergen Quittek <quittek@netlab.nec.de> Wed, 07 September 2005 10:37 UTC

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Cc: nanog@merit.edu, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>, iesg@ietf.org
Subject: Re: ISMS working group and charter problems
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--On 9/7/2005 1:01 PM +0300 Jari Arkko wrote:
> Juergen Quittek wrote:
>
>> The main goal of the ISMS WG is finding a solution that integrates
>> SNMP into existing user and key management systems.
>
> Yes.
>
>> Eliot's request is adding a new goal to the ISMS charter: extending
>> SNMP such that it operates well across NATs and firewalls. I am not
>> sure that ISMS is the right place to do so.
>
> "Call home" is a feature that would be very useful.

In which scenarios do you consider it very useful?

I am not at all saying that it is not useful.  Still, I want to learn
about where and how it would be required. And I am not sure if ISMS is
the right place for this discussion.

It would already be a nice achievement if the ISMS WG solves the
problem of integrating the existing SNMP into user and key
management systems.

>                                                      I'll just note
> that the group's intended SSH approach (is there a draft? I
> did not see one)

Not yet.

>                  does not appear to be in contradiction with
> the ability to cross firewalls. SSH connections can be set up
> so that you go through a device in the demilitarized zone
> to reach something inside a network.
>
> --Jari

Thanks,

    Juergen



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