RE: ISMS working group and charter problems

Margaret Wasserman <margaret@thingmagic.com> Wed, 07 September 2005 19:12 UTC

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Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:12:07 -0400
To: "Fleischman, Eric" <eric.fleischman@boeing.com>, Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, dcrocker@bbiw.net, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
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Subject: RE: ISMS working group and charter problems
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Hi Eric,

At 12:04 PM -0700 9/7/05, Fleischman, Eric wrote:
>At 12:26 AM +0200 9/7/05, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>>>I believe that the ISMS WG's proposal is about ADDING the
>>>possibility of SNMP over TCP, not about CHANGING SNMP to use TCP.
>>>UDP will still work.
>
>>From: Margaret Wasserman [mailto:margaret@thingmagic.com]
>>That is correct.  UDP and the current SNMPv3 USM security mechanisms
>>will still work.  They will also remain mandatory parts of SNMPv3.
>
>Whoa, now, Margaret. Your statement is technically accurate that
>traditional SNMPv3 USM will hopefully co-exist with ISMS indefinitely,
>and therefore SNMP-over-UDP will remain viable within the historic USM
>context. However, your statement is inaccurate within the context of
>this discussion, which is ISMS.

I didn't mean to mislead anyone.  In fact, I had to re-read your 
message and mine a couple of times to figure out what you were 
objecting to...

You are correct that, in the current plan, the ISMS model would be 
TCP-based.  That is what I meant to state by saying "UDP and the 
current SNMPv3 USM security mechanisms will still work".  ISMS will 
be TCP-based, but UDP/USM will still work -- in fact, it will still 
also be mandatory-to-implement for SNMPv3 compliance...  I did not 
mean to imply that UDP/ISMS will work, or even that it will ever be 
defined.

Margaret

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