Re: Applying "Note Well" to side meetings

Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> Sun, 21 July 2019 04:01 UTC

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Speaking as an IPR holder, I would consider it prudent to regard any conversation during IETF week as being potentially covered, regardless of venue

Speaking as someone who might be concerned about having someone promote covert IPR claims, I have been known to raise note well in such discussions.



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From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 10:24 PM
To: 'Phillip Hallam-Baker'; 'IETF Rinse Repeat'
Subject: RE: Applying "Note Well" to side meetings

I don’t think it applies to conversations I have with passing strangers when I am in the street outside the hotel. My point being that there is a line. I am asking on what side of the line a “side meeting” now falls.

Adrian

From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
Sent: 21 July 2019 02:57
To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'IETF Rinse Repeat' <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Applying "Note Well" to side meetings

It was my understanding that note well always applied


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From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk<mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 3:19 PM
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Subject: Applying "Note Well" to side meetings

Hi,

Normally [1] when we have a "bar BoF" (also known as a "side meeting") we do
not apply the terms of the "Note Well" [2]. We have usually considered bar
BoFs to be outside the IETF because the IETF has no control over who meets
and drinks.

However, this time around, the side meetings are somewhat more formal with
room bookings and projectors and advertisements and so on.

So, does the Note Well apply to these side meetings?

Apologies if I missed an email on this: I sometimes don't focus as much as I
should.

Thanks,
Adrian

[1] For some practical definition of "normal"
[2] https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/
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