Re: Regarding call Chinese names

[Joseph Yee <[e-mail]>]

+1

And should remove middle-name / middle-initial.  It's very bad.

Joseph


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Donald Eastlake <[e-mail]> wrote:

> First/Last = bad/ambiguous
>
> Family (or maybe inherited) / Given = good
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
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> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Cyrus Daboo <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > Hi Simon,
> >
> >
> > --On July 11, 2013 at 3:58:10 PM +0200 Simon Perreault
> > <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >>> We submitted two drafts to help people here to correctly call chinese
> >>> people names:
> >>>
> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-deng-call-chinese-names-00
> >>>    http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zcao-chinese-pronounce-00
> >>
> >>
> >> Very cool! Thanks for writing this!
> >>
> >> I have a question: I think I've seen Chinese names written in both
> >> orders. That is, sometimes "Hui Deng" will be written "Deng Hui". Am I
> >> right? Does this happen often? What is the most common order? Is there a
> >> way to guess what order a name is written in? Sometimes it's not easy
> >> for non-Sinophones to know which part is the given name and which part
> >> is the family name.
> >
> >
> > Well that actually brings up a good technical point!
> >
> > In iCalendar (RFC5545) we have properties to represent the organizer and
> > attendee of meetings. A parameter (attribute) of those properties is
> "CN" -
> > defined to be the "common name" of the corresponding calendar user.
> > Obviously that is a single string and typically the concatenation of
> first
> > name/last name. But that of course is a very "Western" approach.
> >
> > I have had several people request that iCalendar instead define new
> > parameters for "FIRST-NAME" and "LAST-NAME". That then gives clients the
> > option of re-ordering those for display purposes based on user locales
> and
> > preferences.
> >
> > So, from a technical standpoint, it seems better to always represent user
> > names using components (last, first, middle)? vCard does have an "N"
> > property where individual components of a name can be broken out.
> >
> > --
> > Cyrus Daboo
> >
>