Re: Regarding call Chinese names

[Donald Eastlake <[e-mail]>]

First/Last = bad/ambiguous

Family (or maybe inherited) / Given = good

Thanks,
Donald
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On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Cyrus Daboo <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
>
> --On July 11, 2013 at 3:58:10 PM +0200 Simon Perreault
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>> We submitted two drafts to help people here to correctly call chinese
>>> people names:
>>>
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-deng-call-chinese-names-00
>>>    http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zcao-chinese-pronounce-00
>>
>>
>> Very cool! Thanks for writing this!
>>
>> I have a question: I think I've seen Chinese names written in both
>> orders. That is, sometimes "Hui Deng" will be written "Deng Hui". Am I
>> right? Does this happen often? What is the most common order? Is there a
>> way to guess what order a name is written in? Sometimes it's not easy
>> for non-Sinophones to know which part is the given name and which part
>> is the family name.
>
>
> Well that actually brings up a good technical point!
>
> In iCalendar (RFC5545) we have properties to represent the organizer and
> attendee of meetings. A parameter (attribute) of those properties is "CN" -
> defined to be the "common name" of the corresponding calendar user.
> Obviously that is a single string and typically the concatenation of first
> name/last name. But that of course is a very "Western" approach.
>
> I have had several people request that iCalendar instead define new
> parameters for "FIRST-NAME" and "LAST-NAME". That then gives clients the
> option of re-ordering those for display purposes based on user locales and
> preferences.
>
> So, from a technical standpoint, it seems better to always represent user
> names using components (last, first, middle)? vCard does have an "N"
> property where individual components of a name can be broken out.
>
> --
> Cyrus Daboo
>