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Re: Admission Control to the IETF 78 and IETF 79 Networks

joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Wed, 07 July 2010 03:23 UTC

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On 2010-07-06 11:37, Mark Atwood wrote:
> That is sadly true.  However, it would still be a good idea to do at
> the IETF gathering, *because* it is currently a usability nightmare.
> There is not enough both real world experience, and exposure of IETF
> participant attendees to actual "tip of the spear" usability of
> interesting use cases like this.

we typically do eap-peap for the ietf802.1x ssid/vlan, the difference 
this time is the radius server will have a lot more credientials to 
chooose from.

> If lots of smart and networking aware people all get the chance to do
> this kind of "interop and usability" "testing" all at once, then a lot
> of useful knowledge, tips, howtos, bug discovery, and application
> feedback will happen, which I believe can only be a good thing towards
> fixing the usability bottleneck that client certs are today.
>
> ..m
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