Re: Admission Control to the IETF 78 and IETF 79 Networks

Russ,

Couple of quick questions:
-- Are the anonymous IDs truly anonymous (show existence of badge [not  
necessarily name on badge] and get one) or are they tied to a user  
identity?  
-- Will users be allowed to request multiple anonymous IDs?  
-- Will these policies be identical for both IETF 78 and IETF 79?

Thanks,
--Richard

On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Russ Housley wrote:

> Andrew:
>
>>> While it is new in IETF meetings, it is far from unusual in WiFi
>>> networks to find some form of authentication. This happens at coffee
>>> shops, college campuses, corporate campuses, and people's
>>> apartments.
>>
>> I'd hate to think that the IETF is modelling its networks on dodgy
>> semi-opaque NAT boxes with bad DNS habits and poor performance.
>>
>> That aside, I have some questions.  What are the plans for logging of
>> the authentication requests, failures, and successes, and who could
>> legally have access to those logs?  In particular, are the  
>> governments
>> of the countries where the (respective) events are to be held able to
>> require that the logs be turned over?  How long will the logs be  
>> kept,
>> and by whom?  (Obviously, these are not new issues, but given the
>> increased ability under this approach to associate a particular human
>> with one or more MAC addresses, it would seem that the status of such
>> logging might be more important.)
>
> No matter where a meeting is held, we are subject to the laws of that
> location.  Nothing new there.
>
> The use of anonymous registration IDs is available to anyone that  
> wants
> to go that route.  Anyone concerned about the logs should use one.
>
> The NOC Team sees no value in the logs after the meeting is over.  The
> logs will be discarded by the NOC Team at the end of the meeting.  Of
> course, during the meting they might be very hepful in debugging and  
> such.
>
> Russ
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