Re: Proposed Update to Note Well

Salvatore Loreto <salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com> Fri, 22 June 2012 09:55 UTC

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I like and support the idea of a brief summary that fits in one readable 
slide

+1 for the Peter's version as it clarifies what is an IETF contribution, 
and to the Noel tweak of the second sentence.


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Salvatore Loreto, PhD
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On 6/22/12 6:50 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>      >  From: Peter Saint-Andre<stpeter@stpeter.im>
>
>      >  With all due respect, that sentence could be improved.
>
> Agree with others; splitting it up into two simpler sentences is an
> improvement.
>
> A tweak, though (you lost something in the second sentence):
>
>     Anything that you write, say, or discuss in the IETF, formally or informally,
>     either at an IETF meeting, or in another IETF venue, such as a mailing
>     list, is an IETF contribution. If any contribution of yours is covered by
>     a patent or patent application made by you or your employer, you or they
>     must disclose that.
>
> The original allowed the employer to make the disclosure (since, after all,
> the employee may not know of all patent filings), and also had a positive
> requirement to make such a disclosure; this revised one brings all that back.
>
> 	Noel