Re: Planned experiment: A new mailing list for last-call discussions

["Andrew G. Malis" <[e-mail]>]

Barry,

Sounds good, let's give it a shot.

Cheers,
Andy


On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 12:14 PM Barry Leiba <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> As we discussed in the plenary session at IETF 105 in Montréal, some
> community members have suggested moving document last-call discussions
> onto a dedicated "last-call" mailing list, and off of the general
> <[e-mail]> list.  The latter is a high-volume list with a lot of
> varied discussion, and some think that it would be useful to separate
> the general discussion from the last-call discussion, to allow people
> to choose which discussions (or both) to follow.  In the IETF 105
> plenary, support was expressed for that separation.
>
> The IESG agrees, and wants to try an experiment to that end.  We
> propose to create <[e-mail]> and to direct last-call
> comments and discussions there (the last-call announcements would
> still go to <[e-mail]>, with "reply-to" set to the new
> list).  That list would be monitored by volunteers recruited by the
> IETF Chair, and digressions would be nudged back to <[e-mail]>,
> while we would ask people having last-call discussions on this list to
> please move them to the new list.  We would get the tools team
> involved so that the distribution lists for directorate and
> review-team reviews would be updated appropriately.
>
> Our plan is to create the new list and pre-subscribe everyone who is
> subscribed to <[e-mail]> at that time.  Of course, anyone could
> unsubscribe to either or both lists immediately or later, but we think
> that doing it this way would minimize the likelihood that people would
> miss important stuff because of the move, and folks can choose what
> they prefer from there.
>
> After six months, we would do an initial evaluation, including getting
> feedback from the community, to see how the experiment is working.  If
> it seems worth continuing we would do so, and at a point that the
> community decides that the experiment is a success (should it so
> decide), we would start an update to BCP 45 to formally move the
> location for last-call discussions, and we would update the 2007 IESG
> Statement on Last Call Guidance.
>
> We invite comments, here, on this plan, by the end of September. As I
> say above, we've heard support from the community for the general
> idea, and we'd like to make sure this direction is what the community
> wants.
>
> Barry, for the IESG
>
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