Re: My "heated message to the IAB."

["Beast (Donald E. Eastlake, 3rd)" <[e-mail]>]

From:  Hans-Werner Braun <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>; from "Dave Crocker" at 
Dec 24, 92 6:07 pm
>Just to keep the record straight, I will include my "heated message to the
>IAB" in full text. Note, again, small recipient audience of people who know
>each other well was intended.
>Hans-Werner

>From: Hans-Werner Braun <[e-mail]>
>Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
>Subject: SIP now IPv6 (fwd)
>To: [e-mail] (Internet Architecture Board)
>Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 14:08:54 PST
>
>Excuse me, dudes, but what the heck is going on here. Are we cutting any
>backdoor sweetheart deals and sending powerful signals to the community?
>Is this what rough consensus is all about? And don't tell me this is just
>a number assignment, and nutting to worry about...

It is just a simple number assignment and no amount of flaming by you
is going to change that.

An announcement to the development mailing lists of SIP and IPAE that
they had reached a stage where the assignment of such a number was
useful is a significant and happy event that I would only expect to be
advertised.  Is there any reason to believe that other proposals would
not be assigned numbers on an equal basis?

There are 14 free values in this field and only a tiny number of
efforts that are trying to really deploy some test code.  I wasn't
active back then but it seems to me that this is roughly what happened
last time, with IP version numbers 1 through 4 being assigned pretty
rapdily.

>Is there an Internet Standard SIP document somewhere?

The most you could ask for is an Experimental RFC.  There is absolutely
no requirement that a standards track document exist for assigning 
version numbers or port numbers.

>Does this mean that Jon can assign numbers as he sees fit?

That's right.  It's his job and it I see nothing wrong with his judgement.

>Very Interesting!!!
>
>Hans-Werner


>Forwarded message:
>>From root Wed Dec 23 13:51:12 1992
>Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 13:46:35 PST
>From: [e-mail] (Bob Hinden)
>Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
>Cc: [e-mail]
>Subject: SIP now IPv6
>Content-Length: 514
>
>Folks,
>
>  SIP is now officially IP Version number 6.
>
>Happy Holidays,
>
>Bob
>
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>
>From: [e-mail] (Jon Postel)
>To: hinden@Eng
>Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]
>Subject: IP Version Number for SIP = 6
>Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:34:11 -0800
>
>
>Bob:
>
>Sorry it took so long for us to get to this, and thanks for the reminders.
>
>Ok.  We've assigned IP Version number 6 to SIP.
>
>- --jon & Joyce.
>
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