Re: SIP now IPv6
"Vinton G. Cerf" <vcerf@CNRI.Reston.VA.US> Thu, 24 December 1992 18:46 UTC
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To: Dave Katz <dkatz@cisco.com>
Cc: hwb@upeksa.sdsc.edu, dlynch@interop.com, Christian.Huitema@sophia.inria.fr, postel@isi.edu, sip@caldera.usc.edu, ip-encaps@sunroof.eng.sun.com, iana@isi.edu, iab@isi.edu
Subject: Re: SIP now IPv6
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 24 Dec 92 10:22:04 PST." <9212241822.AA08585@regal.cisco.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:40:55 -0500
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From: "Vinton G. Cerf" <vcerf@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
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Dave, Let's look at the cases. If we introduce a new version of IP and demux to the same software that IPv4 now demuxes to, that software may become confused if it has not been augmented with knowledge of the new IP version format. Of course, updated software capable of handling IPv6 (say) as well as IPv4 can handle this case. Assuming that a "flag day" when all IP packages change is NOT in the cards, I think it must be the case that demuxing a new IP in addition to IPV4 has to happen below the IP layer, as you suggest - so as to avoid handing a new packet format to the already existing software. Versioning only seems to work if it is possible to assume that ALL receiving software has been updated or that any "new" packet will be caught and dealt with before it reaches an "old" module (e.g. protocol translations or something). It should be possible to write an IP module which will handle both IPv4 and IPnew in which case one would configure things to send packets of both types, even if distinctly marked at the lower level, to the same software package handling all versions of IP. IPAE, for instance, allows us to demux IPv4 but to activate new software able to handle the IPAE protocol (emphasis on protocol) as a bridge to new IP version. Sorry for the stream of consciousness - seems to me that assigning SIP to be version 6 doesn't solve all the problems of live testing in a mixed environment - so I hope the SIP crew has additional ideas along the lines you mention. If my reasoning is broken, please say so - I won't be hurt (embarrassed, maybe, but not hurt)! Vint
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