Re: 64share v2

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Tue, 10 November 2020 17:53 UTC

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Me I can only hope that the operator giving a /56 to a smartphone is 
present where I need access.

Alex

Le 10/11/2020 à 18:47, Joel Halpern a écrit :
> I see that Cameron agreed with your statement, but not your conclusion. 
>   I will try to figure out what I am misunderstanding.
> 
> Yours,
> Joel
> 
> On 11/10/2020 12:41 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
>> Ole, that problem statement is not how I understand Cameron's 
>> description to this list.
>> Yours,
>> Joel
>>
>> On 11/10/2020 11:53 AM, otroan@employees.org wrote:
>>>>  From what the operators have said, using the existing 
>>>> infrastructure for RA/SLAAC is important.  They have not needed 
>>>> DHCPv6.  So they want to be able to offer this using the tools they 
>>>> have deployed. That seems reasonable to me.  Creating a new protocol 
>>>> for this would seem even worse.
>>>
>>> Then you must have missed the point I made earlier.
>>>
>>> What operators find attractive about the RA hack is a deployment 
>>> model where the user's delegated prefix is taken out of a dynamic 
>>> pool local to the box.
>>> That deployment model results in ephemeral addresses. Which might 
>>> work in an environment with tethering today (a client-only stub 
>>> network, where user is expected to press refresh often). But it is 
>>> not obvious how scaling that hack to multiple links/routers is 
>>> possible. Without a massive cost to the rest of the ecosystem.
>>>
>>> We already have a protocol so no need for a new one.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ole
>>>
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