Re: 64share v2

otroan@employees.org Tue, 10 November 2020 16:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: 64share v2
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> From what the operators have said, using the existing infrastructure for RA/SLAAC is important.  They have not needed DHCPv6.  So they want to be able to offer this using the tools they have deployed.  That seems reasonable to me.  Creating a new protocol for this would seem even worse.

Then you must have missed the point I made earlier.

What operators find attractive about the RA hack is a deployment model where the user's delegated prefix is taken out of a dynamic pool local to the box.
That deployment model results in ephemeral addresses. Which might work in an environment with tethering today (a client-only stub network, where user is expected to press refresh often). But it is not obvious how scaling that hack to multiple links/routers is possible. Without a massive cost to the rest of the ecosystem.

We already have a protocol so no need for a new one.

Cheers,
Ole