Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on how to organize virtual meetings

Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> Wed, 25 November 2020 16:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Manycouches] many-fine-dinners --- a view on how to organize virtual meetings
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 4:36 PM Alexandre Petrescu <
alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Le 23/11/2020 à 12:18, Vittorio Bertola a écrit :
> >
> >
> >> Il 23/11/2020 04:47 Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> ha
> >> scritto:
> >>
> [...]
> > and I don't see any easy way to avoid this, except getting back to
> > physical meetings.
>
> I agree and f2f meetings will be back some day.
>
> But I want to mention that, for me, even at f2f IETF meetings I had to
> wake up at night or so to keep up remotely with meetings at my origin
> place.
>
> Overall, for me, after trying entirely remote experiences and entirely
> f2f experiences, I think the IETF meeting is very consuming.  This
> exhaustion is independent of being remote or f2f.  I need one week
> recovery after the meeting even if it was a virtual meeting.
>
> That is a good point, IMHO, about virtual meetings.  It means, for me,
> that virtual meetings might be as effective as the f2f.  Or at least it
> means that the effort spent is the same.
>
> On another hand, I can say that during the f2f meetings I was doing much
> more exercising than during the virtual meetings.  I did lots of
> additional walking during f2fs but zero exercising during virtual
> meetings.  Now the next WG meeting is a click away, not steps away.
>
> Moreover, we had an email list ietf-runners that did see some activity
> during f2f meetings.  But zero activity when IETF is virtual.
>
> During the virtual meetings, some people did use the expression of
> getting in the pink box, but that was just an image.  If we had a sort
> of a conveyor belt (tapis roulant, fr.) to walk on, or even to stand on,
> before taking the mic, maybe it would be good.)
>
>
I agree with you
but exercising is not in scope, Alex.

Behcet

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