Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address privacy
Caleb Raitto <caraitto@chromium.org> Fri, 04 December 2020 19:31 UTC
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2020 14:31:04 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address privacy
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I also would like to attend. -Caleb On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 2:14 AM Corinne Cath <corinnecath@gmail.com> wrote: > Interested too! corinne > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 5:42 AM Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> > wrote: > >> I am interested too. >> On 11/25/2020 12:24 PM, Joey S wrote: >> >> +1 interested in attending >> >> -- >> Joey Salazar >> Digital Sr. Programme Officer >> ARTICLE 19 >> 6E9C 95E5 5BED 9413 5D08 55D5 0A40 4136 0DF0 1A91 >> >> On 18-Nov-20 3:43 PM, Philipp Pfeiffenberger wrote: >> >> I am also interested in attending, representing YouTube Trust & Safety. >> >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:41 PM David Turner <dbturner@google.com> wrote: >> >>> + Philipp >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:19 AM Per Bjorke <bjorke@google.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm also interesting in attending (I'm on Google's invalid traffic/ad >>>> fraud team together with David Turner). >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Per >>>> >>>> >>>> Per Bjorke | Sr Product Manager, Ad Traffic Quality | bjorke@google.com >>>> | 650-245-3105 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:10 AM David Turner <dbturner@google.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +Per Bjorke <bjorke@google.com> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:01 AM David Turner <dbturner@google.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm also interested in attending and presenting on behalf of the >>>>>> Google Ad Traffic Quality team. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 8:59 AM Paul Jensen <pauljensen= >>>>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd very much be interested in attending. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Paul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:18 AM Brad Lassey <lassey= >>>>>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dimitris from Whiteops has expressed interest in participating as >>>>>>>> well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Brad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:06 AM Chelsea Komlo < >>>>>>>> chelsea.komlo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I recommend that someone from Tor be invited to give a talk on how >>>>>>>>> the privacy properties provided by tools like Tor differ from some of the >>>>>>>>> other mechanisms presented (like VPNs or willful IP blindness). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chelsea >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:40 AM Brad Lassey <lassey= >>>>>>>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'd very much be interested in attending as well as presenting on >>>>>>>>>> Willful IP Blindness. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Brad >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 3:08 PM Fernando Gont < >>>>>>>>>> fgont@si6networks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Chris, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some of us have done some work in this area. For example: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * RFC7707 >>>>>>>>>>> * RFC7721 >>>>>>>>>>> * RFC7217 >>>>>>>>>>> * RFC8064 >>>>>>>>>>> * draft-ietf-6man-rfc4941bis >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That said, my comments and questions are: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * I'd be interested in attending >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Is this a meeting to simply to discuss the topic, or do you >>>>>>>>>>> have any >>>>>>>>>>> proposed work in mind? (if so, what, specifically? Or is >>>>>>>>>>> possible >>>>>>>>>>> future work up for discussion?) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * I don't know if the work referenced above is in-topic and of >>>>>>>>>>> interest. >>>>>>>>>>> If it is, and you think it would make sense to do a presentation >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> provide an overview, I'd be happy to. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Fernando >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 13/11/20 14:23, Christopher Wood wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > The PEARG chairs would like to propose a virtual interim on >>>>>>>>>>> the topic of IP address privacy. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > IP address uses: >>>>>>>>>>> > - Spam, abuse, fraud, DoS protection >>>>>>>>>>> > - Geo IP >>>>>>>>>>> > - Ad targeting >>>>>>>>>>> > - ... others? >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Privacy attacks: >>>>>>>>>>> > - IP re-identification >>>>>>>>>>> > - IP-based fingerprinting >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > IP hiding or blindness: >>>>>>>>>>> > - VPNs (and related technologies like Firefox Private Network) >>>>>>>>>>> > - Willful IP Blindness ( >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/bslassey/ip-blindness) >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > The format of this would be presentation-based, though we >>>>>>>>>>> might turn it into a workshop of sorts if folks think that would be more >>>>>>>>>>> useful. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > We are aiming for some time in early December or January. We'd >>>>>>>>>>> like to hear from folks here if they'd be interested in attending such an >>>>>>>>>>> interim, and if so, whether they'd like to contribute to the agenda. Of >>>>>>>>>>> course, suggestions to alter the agenda are also welcome! >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Best, >>>>>>>>>>> > Chris, on behalf of the chairs >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Fernando Gont >>>>>>>>>>> SI6 Networks >>>>>>>>>>> e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com >>>>>>>>>>> PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E >>>>>>>>>>> 7492 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Pearg mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> Pearg@irtf.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Pearg mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Pearg@irtf.org >>>>>>>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Chelsea H. Komlo | chelseakomlo.com >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Pearg mailing list >>>>>>>>> Pearg@irtf.org >>>>>>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Pearg mailing list >>>>>>>> Pearg@irtf.org >>>>>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Pearg mailing list >>>>>>> Pearg@irtf.org >>>>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>>>>>> >>>>>> >> >> >> -- >> Pearg mailing list >> Pearg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >> > > > -- > Corinne Cath - Speth > Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Internet Institute & Alan Turing Institute > > Web: www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/corinne-cath > Email: ccath@turing.ac.uk & corinnecath@gmail.com > Twitter: @C_CS > -- > Pearg mailing list > Pearg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >
- [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address pr… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Brad Lassey
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Chelsea Komlo
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Brad Lassey
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Paul Jensen
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… David Turner
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Matthew Finkel
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Pearg] [EXT] Re: Proposed virtual interim on… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… David Turner
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… David Turner
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Philipp Pfeiffenberger
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Joey S
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Corinne Cath
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Caleb Raitto
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christopher Wood
- [Pearg] Virtual interim on IP address privacy - T… Sara Dickinson