Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address privacy
David Turner <dbturner@google.com> Mon, 16 November 2020 17:01 UTC
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From: David Turner <dbturner@google.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 09:01:39 -0800
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To: Paul Jensen <pauljensen=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, pearg@irtf.org
Cc: Brad Lassey <lassey=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>, Dimitris Theodorakis <dth@whiteops.com>, Chelsea Komlo <chelsea.komlo@gmail.com>, Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>
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Subject: Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address privacy
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I'm also interested in attending and presenting on behalf of the Google Ad Traffic Quality team. On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 8:59 AM Paul Jensen <pauljensen= 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > I'd very much be interested in attending. > > -Paul > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:18 AM Brad Lassey <lassey= > 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> Dimitris from Whiteops has expressed interest in participating as well. >> >> -Brad >> >> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:06 AM Chelsea Komlo <chelsea.komlo@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> I recommend that someone from Tor be invited to give a talk on how the >>> privacy properties provided by tools like Tor differ from some of the other >>> mechanisms presented (like VPNs or willful IP blindness). >>> >>> Chelsea >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:40 AM Brad Lassey <lassey= >>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd very much be interested in attending as well as presenting on >>>> Willful IP Blindness. >>>> >>>> -Brad >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 3:08 PM Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Chris, >>>>> >>>>> Some of us have done some work in this area. For example: >>>>> >>>>> * RFC7707 >>>>> * RFC7721 >>>>> * RFC7217 >>>>> * RFC8064 >>>>> * draft-ietf-6man-rfc4941bis >>>>> >>>>> That said, my comments and questions are: >>>>> >>>>> * I'd be interested in attending >>>>> >>>>> * Is this a meeting to simply to discuss the topic, or do you have any >>>>> proposed work in mind? (if so, what, specifically? Or is possible >>>>> future work up for discussion?) >>>>> >>>>> * I don't know if the work referenced above is in-topic and of >>>>> interest. >>>>> If it is, and you think it would make sense to do a presentation to >>>>> provide an overview, I'd be happy to. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Fernando >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 13/11/20 14:23, Christopher Wood wrote: >>>>> > The PEARG chairs would like to propose a virtual interim on the >>>>> topic of IP address privacy. >>>>> > >>>>> > IP address uses: >>>>> > - Spam, abuse, fraud, DoS protection >>>>> > - Geo IP >>>>> > - Ad targeting >>>>> > - ... others? >>>>> > >>>>> > Privacy attacks: >>>>> > - IP re-identification >>>>> > - IP-based fingerprinting >>>>> > >>>>> > IP hiding or blindness: >>>>> > - VPNs (and related technologies like Firefox Private Network) >>>>> > - Willful IP Blindness (https://github.com/bslassey/ip-blindness) >>>>> > >>>>> > The format of this would be presentation-based, though we might turn >>>>> it into a workshop of sorts if folks think that would be more useful. >>>>> > >>>>> > We are aiming for some time in early December or January. We'd like >>>>> to hear from folks here if they'd be interested in attending such an >>>>> interim, and if so, whether they'd like to contribute to the agenda. Of >>>>> course, suggestions to alter the agenda are also welcome! >>>>> > >>>>> > Best, >>>>> > Chris, on behalf of the chairs >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Fernando Gont >>>>> SI6 Networks >>>>> e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com >>>>> PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Pearg mailing list >>>>> Pearg@irtf.org >>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Pearg mailing list >>>> Pearg@irtf.org >>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Chelsea H. Komlo | chelseakomlo.com >>> -- >>> Pearg mailing list >>> Pearg@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>> >> -- >> Pearg mailing list >> Pearg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >> > -- > Pearg mailing list > Pearg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >
- [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address pr… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Brad Lassey
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Chelsea Komlo
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Brad Lassey
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Paul Jensen
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… David Turner
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Matthew Finkel
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Pearg] [EXT] Re: Proposed virtual interim on… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… David Turner
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… David Turner
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Philipp Pfeiffenberger
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Joey S
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Corinne Cath
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Caleb Raitto
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christopher Wood
- [Pearg] Virtual interim on IP address privacy - T… Sara Dickinson