Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address privacy

David Turner <dbturner@google.com> Mon, 16 November 2020 17:01 UTC

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From: David Turner <dbturner@google.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 09:01:39 -0800
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To: Paul Jensen <pauljensen=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, pearg@irtf.org
Cc: Brad Lassey <lassey=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>, Dimitris Theodorakis <dth@whiteops.com>, Chelsea Komlo <chelsea.komlo@gmail.com>, Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>
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Subject: Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address privacy
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I'm also interested in attending and presenting on behalf of the Google Ad
Traffic Quality team.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 8:59 AM Paul Jensen <pauljensen=
40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> I'd very much be interested in attending.
>
> -Paul
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:18 AM Brad Lassey <lassey=
> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> Dimitris from Whiteops has expressed interest in participating as well.
>>
>> -Brad
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:06 AM Chelsea Komlo <chelsea.komlo@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> I recommend that someone from Tor be invited to give a talk on how the
>>> privacy properties provided by tools like Tor differ from some of the other
>>> mechanisms presented (like VPNs or willful IP blindness).
>>>
>>> Chelsea
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:40 AM Brad Lassey <lassey=
>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd very much be interested in attending as well as presenting on
>>>> Willful IP Blindness.
>>>>
>>>> -Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 3:08 PM Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of us have done some work in this area. For example:
>>>>>
>>>>> * RFC7707
>>>>> * RFC7721
>>>>> * RFC7217
>>>>> * RFC8064
>>>>> * draft-ietf-6man-rfc4941bis
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, my comments and questions are:
>>>>>
>>>>> * I'd be interested in attending
>>>>>
>>>>> * Is this a meeting to simply to discuss the topic, or do you have any
>>>>> proposed work in mind? (if so, what, specifically?  Or is possible
>>>>> future work up for discussion?)
>>>>>
>>>>> * I don't know if the work referenced above is in-topic and of
>>>>> interest.
>>>>> If it is, and you think it would make sense to do a presentation to
>>>>> provide an overview, I'd be happy to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Fernando
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/11/20 14:23, Christopher Wood wrote:
>>>>> > The PEARG chairs would like to propose a virtual interim on the
>>>>> topic of IP address privacy.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > IP address uses:
>>>>> > - Spam, abuse, fraud, DoS protection
>>>>> > - Geo IP
>>>>> > - Ad targeting
>>>>> > - ... others?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Privacy attacks:
>>>>> > - IP re-identification
>>>>> > - IP-based fingerprinting
>>>>> >
>>>>> > IP hiding or blindness:
>>>>> > - VPNs (and related technologies like Firefox Private Network)
>>>>> > - Willful IP Blindness (https://github.com/bslassey/ip-blindness)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The format of this would be presentation-based, though we might turn
>>>>> it into a workshop of sorts if folks think that would be more useful.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We are aiming for some time in early December or January. We'd like
>>>>> to hear from folks here if they'd be interested in attending such an
>>>>> interim, and if so, whether they'd like to contribute to the agenda. Of
>>>>> course, suggestions to alter the agenda are also welcome!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best,
>>>>> > Chris, on behalf of the chairs
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> SI6 Networks
>>>>> e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
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