Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address privacy

Interested too! corinne

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 5:42 AM Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
wrote:

> I am interested too.
> On 11/25/2020 12:24 PM, Joey S wrote:
>
> +1 interested in attending
>
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> On 18-Nov-20 3:43 PM, Philipp Pfeiffenberger wrote:
>
> I am also interested in attending, representing YouTube Trust & Safety.
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:41 PM David Turner <dbturner@google.com> wrote:
>
>> + Philipp
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:19 AM Per Bjorke <bjorke@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm also interesting in attending (I'm on Google's invalid traffic/ad
>>> fraud team together with David Turner).
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Per
>>>
>>>
>>> Per Bjorke | Sr Product Manager, Ad Traffic Quality | bjorke@google.com
>>>  | 650-245-3105
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:10 AM David Turner <dbturner@google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +Per Bjorke <bjorke@google.com>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:01 AM David Turner <dbturner@google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm also interested in attending and presenting on behalf of the
>>>>> Google Ad Traffic Quality team.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 8:59 AM Paul Jensen <pauljensen=
>>>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd very much be interested in attending.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:18 AM Brad Lassey <lassey=
>>>>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dimitris from Whiteops has expressed interest in participating as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Brad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:06 AM Chelsea Komlo <
>>>>>>> chelsea.komlo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I recommend that someone from Tor be invited to give a talk on how
>>>>>>>> the privacy properties provided by tools like Tor differ from some of the
>>>>>>>> other mechanisms presented (like VPNs or willful IP blindness).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chelsea
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:40 AM Brad Lassey <lassey=
>>>>>>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd very much be interested in attending as well as presenting on
>>>>>>>>> Willful IP Blindness.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Brad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 3:08 PM Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some of us have done some work in this area. For example:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * RFC7707
>>>>>>>>>> * RFC7721
>>>>>>>>>> * RFC7217
>>>>>>>>>> * RFC8064
>>>>>>>>>> * draft-ietf-6man-rfc4941bis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That said, my comments and questions are:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * I'd be interested in attending
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Is this a meeting to simply to discuss the topic, or do you
>>>>>>>>>> have any
>>>>>>>>>> proposed work in mind? (if so, what, specifically?  Or is
>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>> future work up for discussion?)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * I don't know if the work referenced above is in-topic and of
>>>>>>>>>> interest.
>>>>>>>>>> If it is, and you think it would make sense to do a presentation
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> provide an overview, I'd be happy to.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Fernando
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 13/11/20 14:23, Christopher Wood wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > The PEARG chairs would like to propose a virtual interim on the
>>>>>>>>>> topic of IP address privacy.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > IP address uses:
>>>>>>>>>> > - Spam, abuse, fraud, DoS protection
>>>>>>>>>> > - Geo IP
>>>>>>>>>> > - Ad targeting
>>>>>>>>>> > - ... others?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Privacy attacks:
>>>>>>>>>> > - IP re-identification
>>>>>>>>>> > - IP-based fingerprinting
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > IP hiding or blindness:
>>>>>>>>>> > - VPNs (and related technologies like Firefox Private Network)
>>>>>>>>>> > - Willful IP Blindness (
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/bslassey/ip-blindness)
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > The format of this would be presentation-based, though we might
>>>>>>>>>> turn it into a workshop of sorts if folks think that would be more useful.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > We are aiming for some time in early December or January. We'd
>>>>>>>>>> like to hear from folks here if they'd be interested in attending such an
>>>>>>>>>> interim, and if so, whether they'd like to contribute to the agenda. Of
>>>>>>>>>> course, suggestions to alter the agenda are also welcome!
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Best,
>>>>>>>>>> > Chris, on behalf of the chairs
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Fernando Gont
>>>>>>>>>> SI6 Networks
>>>>>>>>>> e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
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>>>>>>>>>>
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