Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version.
"MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)" <acmorton@att.com> Tue, 05 March 2013 14:22 UTC
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From: "MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)" <acmorton@att.com>
To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com>, "pm-dir@ietf.org" <pm-dir@ietf.org>
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:22:43 -0500
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Cc: "Alan DeKok (aland@freeradius.org)" <aland@freeradius.org>
Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version.
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Hi Dan, A couple weeks back I posted this: > > I'd prefer a solution where: > > - everyone can view the page > > - directorate reviewers can edit the page > > - all editing is WYSIWYG > > - no collisions between editors > > (if two people are editing, they can see each other and > > pressing save does not overwrite a nested editing session) > > > > Unfortunately, the last two points are beyond Trac's capability. > > I think that I could create a doc on Google Drive that > > would meet all the above criteria. The editing collision aspect is important, because when I posted the link yesterday, several people viewed the page anonymously within a few minutes (as owner with the page on my screen, I could see this). If they had all been editing the Wiki Trac page, over-write collisions would be likely. I established a gmail account to work on a doc with Matt Mathis, and I haven't received any spam in that account as a result of having access to a shared doc or now creating a doc. In fact, the only mail I receive is when Matt Responds to or Resolves a comment. If you don't use the Comment feature, I don't think you'll get any mail at all related to this page. Hope this helps, I will share editing with you now. Al > -----Original Message----- > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:32 AM > To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL); Yaakov Stein; pm-dir@ietf.org > Cc: Alan DeKok (aland@freeradius.org) > Subject: RE: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new > version. > > Hi Al, > > I am <snip>@gmail.com on Google. > > However, this is an address which I usually use for personal > communication, and I am not very enthusiastic either about mixing personal > and professional communications, or about creating another gmail instance > of myself. So I need to ask - what are the advantages / extra capabilities > offered by Google Spreadsheet relative to using a wiki page? > > Thanks and Regards, > > Dan > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > > Of MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 5:59 PM > > To: Yaakov Stein; pm-dir@ietf.org > > Cc: Alan DeKok (aland@freeradius.org) > > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new > > version. > > > > pm-dir, > > > > This weekend, I experimented with preparing a google doc to track drafts > > and reviews. I ended-up using a Google Spreadsheet, which seems to be > > nicely suited to the task and adds features that not possible a static > > document table. I have just updated the table with the yesterday's > > script results, adding two new drafts. > > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmKrqWIOBsprdGZqMnB6dmx5bFJ > > vVUhta3VLSjl3SkE&usp=sharing > > > > > > "everyone" with the link above should be able to view the sheet. > > > > "anyone" in pm-dir who sends me their gmail address (or new address > > prepared for this purpose) will have the editing rights shared with > > them, and can volunteer to review drafts, enter status, etc. > > > > Hopefully, the words in "quotes" above will be true, subject to testing > > which begins now. > > > > Al > > your faithful PMDir Admin > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On > > > Behalf Of MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:36 AM > > > To: Yaakov Stein > > > Cc: pm-dir@ietf.org > > > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - > > > new version. > > > > > > > > > Not Google Tasks (which I haven't investigated), just a Google doc > > > with the table: > > > draft-name + reviewer + status + date > > > > > > Which all reviewers can edit WYSIWYG > > > I'll own the doc and share it with the everyone in the directorate > > > (who actually does reviews :-) ). > > > > > > And, that doc won't be ready till after the draft deadline! > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Yaakov Stein [mailto:yaakov_s@rad.com] > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:07 AM > > > > To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > > > Cc: pm-dir@ietf.org > > > > Subject: RE: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - > > > > new version. > > > > > > > > Sorry for perhaps not catching on, > > > > but are you suggesting setting up a single account for all of the > > > > directorate and using "Google Tasks" to aggregate the review > > > > statuses ? > > > > > > > > While this could work, I think there are perhaps better options. > > > > > > > > The simplest would be just maintaining a table with draft-name + > > > reviewer > > > > + status + date > > > > on a wiki. > > > > > > > > As a reviewer for several academic journals I know they have tools > > > > (much too advanced for our present needs) that select the most > > > > appropriate reviewer(s), send them emails, receive their > > > > acceptance/rejection of the task, send email reminders when the due > > > > date approaches, input the review, etc. > > > > > > > > Y(J)S > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On > > > > Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 17:00 > > > > To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > > > Cc: Benoit Claise (bclaise); pm-dir@ietf.org; Paul Aitken (paitken); > > > Alan > > > > DeKok > > > > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - > > > > new version. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:36 AM, "MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)" > > > <acmorton@att.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ok Benoit, > > > > > I have a version of the doc going, but probably won't finish till > > > > > after the revised deadline expires... > > > > > > > > > > Before going further, it would be useful to know if anyone in the > > > > > directorate objects to using or establishing a gmail account in > > > > > order to register their review assignments and status. > > > > > > > > > > > > > No objection. I think it's a great solution. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > -- Carlos. > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pm-dir mailing list > > > pm-dir@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir > > _______________________________________________ > > pm-dir mailing list > > pm-dir@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir
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- Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors gen… Al Morton
- Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors gen… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors gen… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors gen… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors generat… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Performance metrics doctors gen… Alan DeKok
- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
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- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Paul Aitken
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Paul Aitken
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)
- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Paul Aitken
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)
- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Paul Aitken
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Yaakov Stein
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)
- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
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- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Paul Aitken
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Paul Aitken
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- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)
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- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
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- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Vinayak Hegde
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)
- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
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- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)
- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
- [pm-dir] Fwd: Re: Performance metrics doctors gen… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Re: Performance metrics doctors… MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)
- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Re: Performance metrics doctors… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Re: Performance metrics doctors… MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)
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- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)
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- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Vinayak Hegde
- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Alan Clark
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Vinayak Hegde
- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Jan Novak (janovak)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Jan Novak (janovak)
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- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Alan Clark
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- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
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- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Benoit Claise
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Jan Novak (janovak)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Jan Novak (janovak)
- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
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- Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generate… Vinayak Hegde
- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
- [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated em… Benoit Claise
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