Re: v 1.2, IETF material
"Barry M. Leiner" <leiner@nsipo.nasa.gov> Wed, 02 December 1992 22:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: v 1.2, IETF material
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 01 Dec 92 22:16:13 PST." <9212020616.AA12838@Mordor.Stanford.EDU>
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From: "Barry M. Leiner" <leiner@nsipo.nasa.gov>
Does the tension come from the unacknowledged existence of design teams or the lack of a well-specified way for the WGs to deal with the proposals in a fair manner? Barry > Return-Path: dcrocker@Mordor.Stanford.EDU > Return-Path: <dcrocker@Mordor.Stanford.EDU> > Received: Tue, 1 Dec 92 22:16:14 PST from Mordor.Stanford.EDU by nsipo.arc.nasa.gov (4.1/1.5) > Received: from localhost by Mordor.Stanford.EDU (5.65/inc-1.0) > id AA12838; Tue, 1 Dec 92 22:16:13 -0800 > Message-Id: <9212020616.AA12838@Mordor.Stanford.EDU> > To: Barry M. Leiner <leiner@nsipo.nasa.gov> > Cc: Erik Huizer <Erik.Huizer@surfnet.nl>, Carl Malamud <carl@malamud.com>, > poised@cnri.reston.va.us > Subject: Re: v 1.2, IETF material > Org: The Branch Office, Sunnyvale CA > Phone: +1 408 246 8253; fax: +1 408 249 6205 > In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 01 Dec 92 12:28:59 -0800. <9212012029.AA01044@dscs.arc.nasa.gov> > Date: Tue, 01 Dec 92 22:16:13 -0800 > From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@Mordor.Stanford.EDU> > X-Mts: smtp > > Barry, > > Hence, we didn't really see the need to talk about design teams. It just > appeared to be a place where we wind up overspecifying the system, and run > the risk of putting our feet in our collective mouths, to boot. > > And my point is that I think your (collective) view represents > reasonable theory and poor practise. I've watched the reality of > unofficial/unacknowledged design teams constantly cause tension > and believe that this only will get solved by dealing with it > explicitly. > > Dave
- v 1.2, IETF material Carl Malamud
- Change suggestion Re: v 1.2, IETF material Einar Stefferud
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material John C Klensin
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Erik Huizer
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Dave Crocker
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Bob Stewart
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material John C Klensin
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Barry M. Leiner
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Frank Kastenholz
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material John C Klensin
- Re: Design Teams (was v 1.2, IETF material) Bob Stewart
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Einar Stefferud
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Dave Crocker
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Einar Stefferud
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Vinton G. Cerf
- Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") Gary Scott Malkin
- Re: Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") Dave Crocker
- Re: Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") Marshall Rose
- Re: Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") Bob Stewart
- Re: Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") John C Klensin
- Re: Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") Marshall Rose
- Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") Gary Scott Malkin
- Re: Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") Marshall Rose
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Barry M. Leiner
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Dave Crocker
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Einar Stefferud
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Beast (Donald E. Eastlake, 3rd)
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Frank Kastenholz
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Beast (Donald E. Eastlake, 3rd)
- Re: Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") James R. (Chuck) Davin
- Re: Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") John Curran
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Einar Stefferud
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Beast (Donald E. Eastlake, 3rd)
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Vinton G. Cerf
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Vinton G. Cerf
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Beast (Donald E. Eastlake, 3rd)
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Carl Malamud
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Vinton G. Cerf
- Re: v 1.2, IETF material Einar Stefferud
- v 1.2, IETF material Gary Scott Malkin
- Re: Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") Bob Stewart
- Re: Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") Einar Stefferud
- Re: Design Teams (was "v 1.2, IETF material") Dave Crocker