Re: [RAM] The mapping problem: rendezvous points?
Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Fri, 18 May 2007 18:09 UTC
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 20:09:16 +0200
From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
To: Tony Li <tli@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [RAM] The mapping problem: rendezvous points?
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Hi, On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:28:05AM -0700, Tony Li wrote: > >Mobility incents _some_ hosts to change... but just the ones that are > >mobile. > > I heard that something like 60% of all computers being sold today are > laptops. Given WiFi, EVDO, WiMax, etc., I would think that the host > would want to make the best possible use of mobility. And fixing 60% > of the systems out there seems like incentive. The question is "what do you gain by IP (host) mobility"? I see "session survivalibility", which means "geeks can open an SSH connection to $somewhere, and their SSH will survive them roaming into a different network". OTOH: how many non-geeks have long-running TCP sessions anywhere, and would even notice that they have kept their endpoint address? Non-Geeks tend to do web surfing (short-lived), company VPN'ing (will reconnect if the local address changes), e-mailing (short-lived, usually accompanied by explicit authentication), and maybe voip (would need to re-register, and the ongoing call is lost when actively walking around with your notebook pressed to your ear). Mobile IPv6 aka "VoIP connections survive roaming about" sounds like a good plan for when we have omnipresent IP connectivity without having to manually login to all these different access points - but this is some distant future, at least over here. Which is why there might not be so much demand... Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 113403 SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 _______________________________________________ RAM mailing list RAM@iab.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ram
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